发信人: AprilAzure (double A), 信区: Working
标 题: Yell at boss
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Feb 7 08:23:44 2009)

Being overloaded for too long a time and was picked on small stuff yesterday
before leave for weekend, I was not very patient in explaining and may have
raised my voice. Then my boss said "are you yelling at me? or someone else?
" in my cube. I denied but felt quite disturbing. It's like a career-suicide
, isn't it?

Time to change a job? Never thought about this as I performed quite well
here. Anyhow, feeling bad now and not sure how to handle this next Monday.
Maybe I will just pretend that nothing happened. Any suggestion?
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发信人: year2007 (Year2007), 信区: Working
标 题: Re: Yell at boss
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Feb 7 08:30:15 2009)

那你心底里、潜意识里是yell了或者表现出不耐烦了吗？我看你老板说这话可能不是忍
耐一天了。这样的老板比较mean，趁早准备走人吧。
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发信人: AprilAzure (double A), 信区: Working
标 题: Re: Yell at boss
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Feb 7 09:05:25 2009)

uh-oh. My co-worker once said I am the "right-hand women" of my boss - maybe
over-exaggerated but I do think that I have good credit and solid root in
my company. And we joked with each other a lot normally. I think he said
that spontaneously but I could be wrong.

So shall I give up all my previous efforts and leave just because of one
accident? My company don't have lay-offs so far and it may not happen at
least this year. Looks like it's hard to find a similar deal nowadays...

And hey workaholics, take my lesson - DON'T PUSH YOURSELF TOO HARD. You
never know where is your limit and you could vent your pressure unexpectedly
...


【 在 year2007 (Year2007) 的大作中提到: 】
: 那你心底里、潜意识里是yell了或者表现出不耐烦了吗？我看你老板说这话可能不是忍
: 耐一天了。这样的老板比较mean，趁早准备走人吧。



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发信人: Zeratul (亲亲我的宝贝 我要越过海洋), 信区: Working
标 题: Re: Yell at boss
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Feb 7 09:10:12 2009)

那就不用想太多。

【 在 AprilAzure (double A) 的大作中提到: 】
: uh-oh. My co-worker once said I am the "right-hand women" of my boss -
maybe
: over-exaggerated but I do think that I have good credit and solid root in
: my company. And we joked with each other a lot normally. I think he said
: that spontaneously but I could be wrong.
: So shall I give up all my previous efforts and leave just because of one
: accident? My company don't have lay-offs so far and it may not happen at
: least this year. Looks like it's hard to find a similar deal nowadays...
: And hey workaholics, take my lesson - DON'T PUSH YOURSELF TOO HARD. You
: never know where is your limit and you could vent your pressure
unexpectedly
: ...



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发信人: ILoveOPT (OPT), 信区: Working
标 题: Re: Yell at boss
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Feb 7 10:53:47 2009)

芝麻大的事，星期一老板就忘了。
以后注意点就是了。

【 在 AprilAzure (double A) 的大作中提到: 】
: Being overloaded for too long a time and was picked on small stuff
yesterday
: before leave for weekend, I was not very patient in explaining and may
have
: raised my voice. Then my boss said "are you yelling at me? or someone
else?
: " in my cube. I denied but felt quite disturbing. It's like a career-
suicide
: , isn't it?
: Time to change a job? Never thought about this as I performed quite well
: here. Anyhow, feeling bad now and not sure how to handle this next Monday.
: Maybe I will just pretend that nothing happened. Any suggestion?




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发信人: mgdx (闷闷), 信区: Working
标 题: Re: Yell at boss
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Feb 7 11:02:45 2009)

没事，只是以后可能会被穿小鞋，听着你老板也不咋地。
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发信人: maozhu (毛竹), 信区: Working
标 题: Re: Yell at boss
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Feb 7 11:27:48 2009)

得看人吧。有的人表面上心直口快，背地里不会使坏；有的人表面上你好我好大家好，
背后使坏。

先继续呆着，看形势呗；自己多留个心眼就是了。
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发信人: rl1231 (上官青青), 信区: Working
标 题: Re: Yell at boss
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Feb 7 13:19:04 2009)

检讨一下你自己的态度，以后注意一点。老板或许很快就忘了，但是你如果一直都这样
，他也会有忍受不了的时候。
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发信人: uncommonsue (uncommonSue), 信区: Working
标 题: Re: Yell at boss
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Feb 7 18:52:43 2009)

我就yell 过，经理当我的面和另一个同事开我和别人的玩笑，当时冷冷得来了一句"I
don't like some jokes." 后来发email向我道歉。

我的原则是，给人干活不是受气来的，大不了走人，工作做得不好尽管骂，跟工作美关
系的破事惹了我可不行。
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发信人: xanadu (露珠), 信区: Working
标 题: Re: Yell at boss
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Feb 7 20:29:04 2009)

I had very similar experience as you had. It turned out to be a good
stimulation of the relationship between my boss and me. Everyone has his/her
own limitations. Let your boss know what's your natural reaction is not a
bad thing. After all, it's just a yelling, could be worse... :) It's also
called "Control Through Creative Vulnerability".

【 在 AprilAzure (double A) 的大作中提到: 】
: uh-oh. My co-worker once said I am the "right-hand women" of my boss -
maybe
: over-exaggerated but I do think that I have good credit and solid root in
: my company. And we joked with each other a lot normally. I think he said
: that spontaneously but I could be wrong.
: So shall I give up all my previous efforts and leave just because of one
: accident? My company don't have lay-offs so far and it may not happen at
: least this year. Looks like it's hard to find a similar deal nowadays...
: And hey workaholics, take my lesson - DON'T PUSH YOURSELF TOO HARD. You
: never know where is your limit and you could vent your pressure
unexpectedly
: ...



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发信人: snoppyfirst (snoppy), 信区: Working
标 题: Re: Yell at boss
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Feb 8 13:52:06 2009)

一些 Asian 火气大.. Can't take Joke, 一生气时 会 静悄悄的low profile 的失控
... then....

... 突然来个 大开杀戒 .... 死伤无数
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发信人: Thoreau (醋熘土豆丝), 信区: Working
标 题: Re: Yell at boss
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Feb 8 19:39:53 2009)

我们公司恰恰相反，他们可以笑我，但是相同的笑话对于米国人来讲就是没办法接收的
。。。

【 在 snoppyfirst (snoppy) 的大作中提到: 】
: 一些 Asian 火气大.. Can't take Joke, 一生气时 会 静悄悄的low profile 的失控
: ... then....
: ... 突然来个 大开杀戒 .... 死伤无数



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发信人: AprilAzure (double A), 信区: Working
标 题: update Re: Yell at boss
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Feb 9 11:23:19 2009)

haha, I like it - "Creative Vulnerability" :-)

My boss just stopped by and said "I saw your smile back - how's your weekend
blah blah..." He is on his way to a meeting and wants to talk about my
frustration later. I guess I need to be cautious here. I was trying to avoid
this type of talk because of the potential pitfalls that could backfire. I
really want to forget about it and move on. How did you handle it in your
last experience and turn it to a positive one?


【 在 xanadu (露珠) 的大作中提到: 】
: I had very similar experience as you had. It turned out to be a good
: stimulation of the relationship between my boss and me. Everyone has his/
her
: own limitations. Let your boss know what's your natural reaction is not a
: bad thing. After all, it's just a yelling, could be worse... :) It's also
: called "Control Through Creative Vulnerability".
: maybe
: unexpectedly



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发信人: immortal (immortal), 信区: Working
标 题: Re: Yell at boss
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Feb 9 11:43:40 2009)

赞无欲则刚
【 在 uncommonsue (uncommonSue) 的大作中提到: 】
: 我就yell 过，经理当我的面和另一个同事开我和别人的玩笑，当时冷冷得来了一句"
I
: don't like some jokes." 后来发email向我道歉。
: 我的原则是，给人干活不是受气来的，大不了走人，工作做得不好尽管骂，跟工作美关
: 系的破事惹了我可不行。



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发信人: Yixter (Yix), 信区: Working
标 题: if you are good looking basically you can yell at anyone ....
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Feb 9 12:53:42 2009)


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发信人: aprilc (april), 信区: Working
标 题: Re: Yell at boss
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Feb 9 13:00:26 2009)

it really doesn't matter that much. from what you said, your boss can take
it. Forget about it, act like nothing has happened. Don't change job just
because of this.
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发信人: AprilAzure (double A), 信区: Working
标 题: Re: if you are good looking basically you can yell at anyone
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Feb 9 13:03:22 2009)

Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder :)


【 在 Yixter (Yix) 的大作中提到: 】



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发信人: xinyuemba (小树), 信区: Working
标 题: Re: Yell at boss
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Feb 9 13:31:16 2009)

哪里有什么Career Suicide? 还好了,这种事情有时会发生的。如果你觉得自己的态度
确实不好,直接去他那里诚恳道个歉,让别人觉得被尊重就好了。除非这个人特别不正常
，不会记恨的。换个位置想想，如果你手下对你吼了一声，后来道歉，你应该也不会记
恨的吧？还可能觉得此人工作比较认真负责，更何况人家还道歉了。
直接跟他说："I want to apologize for the other day. I know I sort of yelled
at you. I did not mean it. Hope you do not mind. "

其实我觉得你不管领导和手下，都不要去吼人家就最好了，想想别人工作也不容易，更
何况不过是打份工，何必那么认真，生气不是对自己健康不好？



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发信人: xanadu (露珠), 信区: Working
标 题: Re: update Re: Yell at boss
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Feb 9 20:30:47 2009)

believe it or not, "creative vulnerability" is written in communication
theory. I heard it from a communication seminar given by a former performer.
She used Hillary Clinton's tears on the stage as an example when she won
New Hampshire primary. That changed people's perception on her coldness.

If you have passion on your work, you will get emotional, that's no doubt.
So in order to turn around the situation, the key is to let your boss know,
the yelling (or anything emotional) is not about him, it's about the work.
You care about the work serious enough so that you couldn't help to feeling
frustrated when things were not going right. (But don't use it too often :-)
)

I didn't do anything specific after my incident. Definitely not to say sorry
. I just keep getting my work done well. Being nice to everyone and my boss.
In the performance review, my boss wrote a lot of good words about my work,
sometimes sounded even exaggerated to me, so I smiled and joked back. And
he said with a kind of relief "now you're laughing..."

After that, we became very open to each other and I feel safe to share my
emotions with him. (But again, not too much. I think it is equally important
to stay at a right distance with your boss.)

hope this helps.

【 在 AprilAzure (double A) 的大作中提到: 】
: haha, I like it - "Creative Vulnerability" :-)
: My boss just stopped by and said "I saw your smile back - how's your
weekend
: blah blah..." He is on his way to a meeting and wants to talk about my
: frustration later. I guess I need to be cautious here. I was trying to
avoid
: this type of talk because of the potential pitfalls that could backfire.
I
: really want to forget about it and move on. How did you handle it in your
: last experience and turn it to a positive one?
: her



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发信人: baiyang (baiyang), 信区: Working
标 题: Re: update Re: Yell at boss
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Feb 10 13:37:26 2009)

Wow, you have such a good command of English. How do you make it?


【 在 xanadu (露珠) 的大作中提到: 】
: believe it or not, "creative vulnerability" is written in communication
: theory. I heard it from a communication seminar given by a former
performer.
: She used Hillary Clinton's tears on the stage as an example when she won
: New Hampshire primary. That changed people's perception on her coldness.
: If you have passion on your work, you will get emotional, that's no doubt.
: So in order to turn around the situation, the key is to let your boss know
,
: the yelling (or anything emotional) is not about him, it's about the work.
: You care about the work serious enough so that you couldn't help to
feeling
: frustrated when things were not going right. (But don't use it too often :
-)
: )
: ...................



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