发信人: alou (alou), 信区: Fishing 标 题: 请斑主起码让techsavvy把乌龟的帖子删了，我就是看不下去 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed May 27 23:43:02 2009) Habitat destruction is the biggest problem facing box turtles. Woodlands converted into farmland have reduced the turtles range in many US states.[5] Remaining land is often fragmented with roads and housing projects, breaking up the animals' habitat. As they try to cross manmade additions, turtles are often killed by cars, animals, and other dangers.[6] A further threat to these animals in North America is the capture and sale of wild-born box turtles. A 3-year study in Texas indicated that over 7,000 box turtles were taken from the wild for commercial trade. A similar study in Louisiana found that in a 41-month period, nearly 30,000 box turtles were taken from the wild for resale. Once captured, turtles are often kept in poor conditions where up to half of them die. Those living long enough to be sold usually suffer from conditions such as malnutrition, dehydration, and infection.[7][8] Indiana and other states have laws against collecting the turtles from the wild. In many states, it is illegal to keep them without a permit. Collecting box turtles from the wild may cause irreversible damage in the populations, as these turtles have a low reproduction rate and have a hard time finding a mate.[5] Most turtle and tortoise societies recommend against box turtles as pets for small children. Box turtles are easily stressed by overhandling and require more care than is generally thought. Box turtles can be easily injured by dogs and cats so special care must be taken to protect them from household pets and neighborhood animals. Box turtles require an outdoor enclosure, consistent exposure to the sun and a varied diet. Without these, a turtle's growth can be stunted and its immune system weakened. Finding box turtles in the wild and taking them as pets, even for a very short period of time, can have detrimental effects. Box turtles want to stay within the same area where they were born. If one is moved more than a half -mile from its territory, it may never find its way back; but may spend years unsystematically searching. This exposes the animal to danger and also disrupts the breeding cycle.[9] -- ※ 来源:·WWW 未名空间站 海外: mitbbs.com 中国: mitbbs.cn·[FROM: 71.70.]
发信人: alou (alou), 信区: Fishing 标 题: Re: 请斑主起码让techsavvy把乌龟的帖子删了，我就是看不下去 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed May 27 23:44:02 2009) 要想钓鱼，要想enjoy自然，请起码尊重自然！ -- ※ 来源:·WWW 未名空间站 海外: mitbbs.com 中国: mitbbs.cn·[FROM: 71.70.]
发信人: alou (alou), 信区: Fishing 标 题: Re: 请斑主起码让techsavvy把乌龟的帖子删了，我就是看不下去 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed May 27 23:44:47 2009) Indiana and other states have laws against collecting the turtles from the wild. In many states, it is illegal to keep them without a permit. Collecting box turtles from the wild may cause irreversible damage in the populations, as these turtles have a low reproduction rate and have a hard time finding a mate. -- ※ 来源:·WWW 未名空间站 海外: mitbbs.com 中国: mitbbs.cn·[FROM: 71.70.]
发信人: alou (alou), 信区: Fishing 标 题: Re: 请斑主起码让techsavvy把乌龟的帖子删了，我就是看不下去 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed May 27 23:48:35 2009) Box turtles want to stay within the same area where they were born. If one is moved more than a half -mile from its territory, it may never find its way back; but may spend years unsystematically searching. -- ※ 来源:·WWW 未名空间站 海外: mitbbs.com 中国: mitbbs.cn·[FROM: 71.70.]
发信人: striper (striper), 信区: Fishing 标 题: Re: 请斑主起码让techsavvy把乌龟的帖子删了，我就是看不下去 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu May 28 00:02:10 2009) 我们附近的公园里也养了这样的乌龟， 也没什么的。。 -- ※ 来源:·WWW 未名空间站 海外: mitbbs.com 中国: mitbbs.cn·[FROM: 69.114.]
发信人: alou (alou), 信区: Fishing 标 题: Re: 请斑主起码让techsavvy把乌龟的帖子删了，我就是看不下去 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu May 28 09:39:17 2009) 你非要这么说的话，你也可以说有人还把不合尺寸的鱼带回家也没有什么呢。 我觉得玩任何游戏都是要讲规则的。 【 在 striper (striper) 的大作中提到: 】 : 我们附近的公园里也养了这样的乌龟， 也没什么的。。 -- ※ 来源:·WWW 未名空间站 海外: mitbbs.com 中国: mitbbs.cn·[FROM: 71.70.]
发信人: Mizzle (Mizzle), 信区: Fishing 标 题: Re: 请斑主起码让techsavvy把乌龟的帖子删了，我就是看不下去 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu May 28 09:57:47 2009) techsavvy那个州不知道让不让keep这种turtle，如果让的话应该没事吧，这和keep一 些legal的鱼养在家里一样吧。要是不让keep的话，那这样作是不太好了。 【 在 alou (alou) 的大作中提到: 】 : 你非要这么说的话，你也可以说有人还把不合尺寸的鱼带回家也没有什么呢。 : 我觉得玩任何游戏都是要讲规则的。 -- ※ 来源:·WWW 未名空间站 海外: mitbbs.com 中国: mitbbs.cn·[FROM: 173.2.]
发信人: techsavvy (海阔天空), 信区: Fishing 标 题: Re: 请斑主起码让techsavvy把乌龟的帖子删了，我就是看不下去 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu May 28 10:29:39 2009) 查了我们州的Department of Game and Inland Fishery, 没发现关于禁止侍养box turle 的条例。到发现它曾被提名为state reptile，但没通过general assembly 讨论。 这种turle似名为eastern box turtle。 http://www.bio.davidson.edu/people/midorcas/research/Contribute/box%20turtle/boxinfo.htm 如果google box turtle， 会发现许多地方出售它们作为pet。 回玫瑰MM：turtle 照片已撤，只留下第一张，好像多数人都认为它很cute。 若还不满 意，我将turtle 的脸部遮去，或换成您最讨厌的一个人的，比如说， 我的？:) -- ※ 来源:·WWW 未名空间站 海外: mitbbs.com 中国: mitbbs.cn·[FROM: 156.80.]
发信人: Yiii (武穆厚人), 信区: Fishing 标 题: Re: 请斑主起码让techsavvy把乌龟的帖子删了，我就是看不下去 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu May 28 10:37:10 2009) 呵呵，幸好我去年发乌龟贴的时候你不在 【 在 alou (alou) 的大作中提到: 】 : Habitat destruction is the biggest problem facing box turtles. Woodlands : converted into farmland have reduced the turtles range in many US states.[ 5] : Remaining land is often fragmented with roads and housing projects, : breaking up the animals' habitat. As they try to cross manmade additions, : turtles are often killed by cars, animals, and other dangers.[6] : A further threat to these animals in North America is the capture and sale : of wild-born box turtles. A 3-year study in Texas indicated that over 7, 000 : box turtles were taken from the wild for commercial trade. A similar study : in Louisiana found that in a 41-month period, nearly 30,000 box turtles were : taken from the wild for resale. Once captured, turtles are often kept in : ................... -- ------------------------------ 弱水三千，一张，一弛。 My Photo Album: http://picasaweb.google.com/YiiiTooo ※ 来源:·WWW 未名空间站 海外: mitbbs.com 中国: mitbbs.cn·[FROM: 128.211.]
发信人: doublethree (33), 信区: Fishing 标 题: Re: 请斑主起码让techsavvy把乌龟的帖子删了，我就是看不下去 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu May 28 10:42:03 2009) 只要人家不干违法的事情，我们似乎无权干涉别人的事情吧？每人都有自己的自由不是？ 【 在 alou (alou) 的大作中提到: 】 : Habitat destruction is the biggest problem facing box turtles. Woodlands : converted into farmland have reduced the turtles range in many US states.[ 5] : Remaining land is often fragmented with roads and housing projects, : breaking up the animals' habitat. As they try to cross manmade additions, : turtles are often killed by cars, animals, and other dangers.[6] : A further threat to these animals in North America is the capture and sale : of wild-born box turtles. A 3-year study in Texas indicated that over 7, 000 : box turtles were taken from the wild for commercial trade. A similar study : in Louisiana found that in a 41-month period, nearly 30,000 box turtles were : taken from the wild for resale. Once captured, turtles are often kept in : ................... -- ※ 来源:·WWW 未名空间站 海外: mitbbs.com 中国: mitbbs.cn·[FROM: 68.62.]
发信人: dogwhisper (er), 信区: Fishing 标 题: Re: 请斑主起码让techsavvy把乌龟的帖子删了，我就是看不下去 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu May 28 11:02:36 2009) 不违规就行了,管别人说什么呢. You can never satisfy everybody. 我觉的换成lz的头像最合适,lz这么爱龟,一定不会介意 【 在 techsavvy (海阔天空) 的大作中提到: 】 : 查了我们州的Department of Game and Inland Fishery, 没发现关于禁止侍养box : turle 的条例。到发现它曾被提名为state reptile，但没通过general assembly 讨 论。 : 这种turle似名为eastern box turtle。 : http://www.bio.davidson.edu/people/midorcas/research/Contribute/box%20turtle/boxinfo.htm : 如果google box turtle， 会发现许多地方出售它们作为pet。 : 回玫瑰MM：turtle 照片已撤，只留下第一张，好像多数人都认为它很cute。 若还不满 : 意，我将turtle 的脸部遮去，或换成您最讨厌的一个人的，比如说， 我的？:) -- ※ 来源:·WWW 未名空间站 海外: mitbbs.com 中国: mitbbs.cn·[FROM: 67.172.]
发信人: alou (alou), 信区: Fishing 标 题: Re: 请斑主起码让techsavvy把乌龟的帖子删了，我就是看不下去 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu May 28 11:39:51 2009) 我知道很多人把乌龟带回家，乌龟又不是只有一种，我相信有的就是不能keep的，如果 你确信可以keep，我才懒得管。但是这个乌龟连techsavvy自己都不知道是不是可以 keep，带回家的时候连人家是什么龟都不知道。这样做对他自己也不见得有什么好处。 【 在 Yiii (武穆厚人) 的大作中提到: 】 : 呵呵，幸好我去年发乌龟贴的时候你不在 : 5] : 000 : were -- ※ 来源:·WWW 未名空间站 海外: mitbbs.com 中国: mitbbs.cn·[FROM: 71.70.]
发信人: techsavvy (海阔天空), 信区: Fishing 标 题: Re: 请斑主起码让techsavvy把乌龟的帖子删了，我就是看不下去 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu May 28 11:50:54 2009) Sorry, not to offend anyone, but this is the funniest joke I heard this year ...couldn't help but laughing and had to explain to my officemates :) 【 在 dogwhisper (er) 的大作中提到: 】 : 不违规就行了,管别人说什么呢. You can never satisfy everybody. : 我觉的换成lz的头像最合适,lz这么爱龟,一定不会介意 : 论。 -- ※ 来源:·WWW 未名空间站 海外: mitbbs.com 中国: mitbbs.cn·[FROM: 156.80.]
发信人: alou (alou), 信区: Fishing 标 题: Re: 请斑主起码让techsavvy把乌龟的帖子删了，我就是看不下去 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu May 28 11:54:06 2009) 我倒没有觉得有什么被offend。请问你的officemates都是怎么说的？ 【 在 techsavvy (海阔天空) 的大作中提到: 】 : Sorry, not to offend anyone, but this is the funniest joke I heard this year : ...couldn't help but laughing and had to explain to my officemates :) -- ※ 来源:·WWW 未名空间站 海外: mitbbs.com 中国: mitbbs.cn·[FROM: 71.70.]
发信人: genewu (小治), 信区: Fishing 标 题: Re: 请斑主起码让techsavvy把乌龟的帖子删了，我就是看不下去 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu May 28 11:55:56 2009) 我觉得吧 违规不违规 你也可以懒得管 但你对techsavvy不了解这个乌龟的习性 乱伺候进行评判指正 我是很赞赏的 【 在 alou (alou) 的大作中提到: 】 : 我知道很多人把乌龟带回家，乌龟又不是只有一种，我相信有的就是不能keep的，如果 : 你确信可以keep，我才懒得管。但是这个乌龟连techsavvy自己都不知道是不是可以 : keep，带回家的时候连人家是什么龟都不知道。这样做对他自己也不见得有什么好处。 -- ※ 来源:·WWW 未名空间站 海外: mitbbs.com 中国: mitbbs.cn·[FROM: 64.61.]
发信人: alou (alou), 信区: Fishing 标 题: Re: 请斑主起码让techsavvy把乌龟的帖子删了，我就是看不下去 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu May 28 12:01:27 2009) 我的初衷就是这样的，一开始看到小乌龟在水里，我真的很着急，至于这个乌龟是不是 违规我当时也不知道，现在也不知道。我自己肯定不会不知道的情况下就拿回家的。后 来只不过看到很多对这个乌龟很赞，所以我查了下，觉得有可能不合法，如果大家都觉 得这个乌龟很cute（it is），都以为可以随便拿回家，这是很不好的。所以我只是建 议了一下把它放了。既然techsavvy不想放，我就只好建议把帖子删了，techsavvy自己 一遍自娱自乐去。 【 在 genewu (小治) 的大作中提到: 】 : 我觉得吧 : 违规不违规 : 你也可以懒得管 : 但你对techsavvy不了解这个乌龟的习性 : 乱伺候进行评判指正 : 我是很赞赏的 -- ※ 来源:·WWW 未名空间站 海外: mitbbs.com 中国: mitbbs.cn·[FROM: 71.70.]
发信人: techsavvy (海阔天空), 信区: Fishing 标 题: Re: 请斑主起码让techsavvy把乌龟的帖子删了，我就是看不下去 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu May 28 12:02:29 2009) 接受批评，头底ing。。。改日写个检讨。。。 【 在 genewu (小治) 的大作中提到: 】 : 我觉得吧 : 违规不违规 : 你也可以懒得管 : 但你对techsavvy不了解这个乌龟的习性 : 乱伺候进行评判指正 : 我是很赞赏的 -- ※ 来源:·WWW 未名空间站 海外: mitbbs.com 中国: mitbbs.cn·[FROM: 156.80.]
发信人: shimano (淡水钓鱼), 信区: Fishing 标 题: Re: 请斑主起码让techsavvy把乌龟的帖子删了，我就是看不下去 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu May 28 12:03:25 2009) 谁愿意带合法的或非法动物回家，不关我事，techsavvy爱干嘛干嘛。 但是，赞你的这种态度，支持了解以后再喂养。 贴一个box turtle的食物供参考。 Diet in the Wild Omnivorous, these turtles eat snails, insects, berries, fungi, slugs, worms, roots, flowers, fish, frogs, salamanders, snakes, birds, and eggs indiscriminately. They have been observed eating carrion, feeding on dead ducks, amphibians, assorted small mammals, and even a dead cow. Their preference varies greatly by season but there is one definite trend. Young are primarily carnivorous while they grow during their first five to six years. Adults tend to be mostly herbivorous, but they eat no green leaves. Young often hunt in ponds and streams because the type of food they prefer is easier to catch there, but adults usually feed on land. 【 在 alou (alou) 的大作中提到: 】 : 我知道很多人把乌龟带回家，乌龟又不是只有一种，我相信有的就是不能keep的，如果 : 你确信可以keep，我才懒得管。但是这个乌龟连techsavvy自己都不知道是不是可以 : keep，带回家的时候连人家是什么龟都不知道。这样做对他自己也不见得有什么好处。 -- trout, bluegill, largemouth bass, crappie, northern pike, smallmouth bass，perch ※ 来源:·WWW 未名空间站 海外: mitbbs.com 中国: mitbbs.cn·[FROM: 24.12.]
发信人: alou (alou), 信区: Fishing 标 题: Re: 请斑主起码让techsavvy把乌龟的帖子删了，我就是看不下去 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu May 28 12:07:31 2009) 他们还不爱晒太阳，我看到的都是躲在厚厚的落叶下面的。建议给个可以藏身的阴凉的 地方。 【 在 shimano (淡水钓鱼) 的大作中提到: 】 : 谁愿意带合法的或非法动物回家，不关我事，techsavvy爱干嘛干嘛。 : 但是，赞你的这种态度，支持了解以后再喂养。 : 贴一个box turtle的食物供参考。 : Diet in the Wild : Omnivorous, these turtles eat snails, insects, berries, fungi, slugs, worms, : roots, flowers, fish, frogs, salamanders, snakes, birds, and eggs : indiscriminately. They have been observed eating carrion, feeding on dead : ducks, amphibians, assorted small mammals, and even a dead cow. Their : preference varies greatly by season but there is one definite trend. Young : are primarily carnivorous while they grow during their first five to six : ................... -- ※ 来源:·WWW 未名空间站 海外: mitbbs.com 中国: mitbbs.cn·[FROM: 71.70.]
发信人: techsavvy (海阔天空), 信区: Fishing 标 题: Re: 请斑主起码让techsavvy把乌龟的帖子删了，我就是看不下去 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu May 28 12:23:20 2009) 如果你真想知道的话：我有三个美国officemate， 都是本州人。一致的意见是您过虑 了，说的不好听（他们的原话），就是您管的太宽了 ：）我给他们看了picture, 一个说他小时后也养过这么一个，另一个说，这也会让您难受？：） 【 在 alou (alou) 的大作中提到: 】 : 我倒没有觉得有什么被offend。请问你的officemates都是怎么说的？ : year -- ※ 来源:·WWW 未名空间站 海外: mitbbs.com 中国: mitbbs.cn·[FROM: 156.80.]
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